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Scandalizing our nation's children

Want to scandalize a seven-year-old schoolboy who's been raised with a respect for honesty and the knowledge that if he lies, he gets in so much trouble?

Tell him that you are mad at the US president, George W. Bush, because he lied to the whole country. Mention the last two US presidents with big lies -- Clinton, who lied about his girlfriend, and got in big trouble with his wife, and Nixon, who lied bigtime and got kicked out of being president for it.

Instant Scandalized Kid.

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What I don't understand is the logic of Shrub-supporters. The one that goes, "It is possible for a president who lied to the public to get reelected, Clinton did." Yes, but his lies never resulted in anyone being killed.

I just have to shake my head every time I hear that comparison.

I explained that Clinton's lie was pretty much to his wife about his girlfriend. He told his wife that actually he didn't have a girlfriend when really he did, and his wife was really really mad about it. (And you know, if my husband lied to me about having a girlfriend, I'd be mad too, because everyone knows that if you're married, you have to ask the person you're married to if you can have a girlfriend or not first.)

Hah! I just love the way you give him decent family values!

And he's probably going to really surprise me with something or other when he grows up.

Kids are so very logical, though. Or at least he is. He likes it when I explain things.

...okay, that last was a little vague. When I was fifteen, I scandalized my mother by telling her that I was bisexual. She said something that I am going to remember until the day I die: "I know I raised you to make up your own minds, but I didn't actually think you would!"

I suspect that the Little Fayoumis will do something to cause a very similar reaction in me.

Sort of like in our family, then.

Our parents raised us to make up our own minds on religion. I became a Christian, and my brother a LeVey Satanist (for a while, anyway).

It turned out we were allowed to believe whatever we wanted, as long as we didn't believe in anything.

Hehe. FatherSir is fine with paganism, but he's got a difficult time with magic.

Little Fayoumis is getting a nominally-pagan religious education (a vague one) that has room for all religions being OK. It doesn't hurt that he has good examples from at least a few religions around (mainly assorted-pagan and Christian, with a few good Jewish role models as well).

"It is possible for a president who lied to the public to get reelected"

It may be possible, but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. ^_^ Silly Bush-people.

And Clinton should probably have gotten in more trouble. Though ultimately how much trouble he got in was up to Hilary and Monica.

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